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Post by josha on Mar 6, 2003 20:44:07 GMT -5
blah blah blah blah
fuck im so sick of all this peace and anti war shit going around, it really is a peace of shit
Obviously they arnt paying attention to it now, and if they did and pulled back all there forces they would seem weak in front of iraq, its not going to happen
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Post by josha on Mar 6, 2003 20:58:21 GMT -5
alright thats fair enough, im not saying you dont have an opinion, i am just friggin sick of every internet site i go there all this shit about peace
the only website i have been to that hasnt got anything on it about anti war is thehun.net
I dont want war, but i dont want to be SPAMED about anti war either
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Post by TLCM on Mar 7, 2003 2:57:17 GMT -5
I don't know what sites you visit Josh but apart from this one the only anti_war stuff I ever see on the other sites is the stuff that I wrote. Oh and I signed your petition.
What's the use in having a point of view if you can't express it. (interpertet that as you may).
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Post by slushpup on Mar 7, 2003 3:42:22 GMT -5
Fair enough, Josh. You're entitled to your opinion. Stupid, pathetic and ill-informed as it may be. First They Came for the Jews
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller
yeah, i know that poem well. its probably one of the greatest insights on that topic, and how very true. i figured everyone would be pretty much anti-war but in the last week ive met so many nieve people who are very pro-war, and i end up debating with them. as far as im concerned, if they want a fucking war, they can go fucking fight it themselves. makes sense. wehn i told a guy that he should enlist and go fight the war he wants himself, he said "oh nah....im learning. i wanna be safe". (!!)  |
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Post by sam on Mar 7, 2003 4:10:27 GMT -5
I'm siding with both Josh and Rollergirl. As much as you people would love to stick it up America, you've gotta realise - Saddam Hussein isn't a nice guy. He's a tyrant and has brought so much pain and suffering to his country..it would be on a par with (if not more than) the amount of suffering America is about to bring on the country. The rageme needs to be removed. It shouldn't be done violently, and I'm sick of the U.S changing the rules in this lead up to the war - but I think it has to be done. Don't get me wrong, I don't want one Iraqi civilian hurt, but if we're all peace and lollipops then Hussein will just keep doing what he's already doing (along with various U.S sanctions to help him out.) A lot of people are going to die either way, it's just a matter of when. Now, or later.
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Post by kelly on Mar 7, 2003 9:32:31 GMT -5
signed
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Post by captain heinemann on Mar 8, 2003 1:18:46 GMT -5
i signed it.
i agree with josha in that it is unlikely its going to do anything and that the us arent going to out but i dont think its fair that the us can just invade some country just cos they feel like it.
i dont think the stance on saddma should be lollipops or what not but i think they need to give a chance to disarming him peacefully.
bush has set up this whole view that there is a time limit to disarming him. there isn't.
so..'give peace a chance before you go to war'
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Post by josha on Mar 8, 2003 1:43:06 GMT -5
i signed it. i dont think its fair that the us can just invade some country just cos they feel like it. yes they just FEEL like invading IRAQ for the fun of it Cockface You people have no fucking idea whats going on, you just want to bitch about anything and everything |
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Post by captain heinemann on Mar 8, 2003 1:49:03 GMT -5
oh fuck off shithead. i dont mean that they're just doing it cos they have nothing better to do but the us are always just wandering off to other countries and fucking around and doing whatever the fuck they want to do and they say they want to make the world safe againt terroism and fuckfuckfuck but its not true. thats not why they are really going into iraq. in iraq they just want to ... i dont know colonialise so that they arein charge and have like a military 'democracy' over the FOREIGN country. and if you know so much of whats going on they how come the best you can come up with is "fuck im so sick of all this peace and anti war shit going around, it really is a peace of shit" and josh don't just pick fights cos you're dicks so tired from you playing with it you've got nothing better to do  don't forget i bought you off slushpup: you're 'owned' |
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Post by TLCM on Mar 8, 2003 1:51:17 GMT -5
Each to there own. You have no idea what I believe on the matter other than I'm anti-war Josh. You don't know why I believe that so stop assuming that everyone is a shallow, idiotic teeny bopper. I don't like Suddam Huessein either and I believew that he should be stopped but neither that or the weapons most likely has much to do with the motive to invade.
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Post by slushpup on Mar 8, 2003 1:52:12 GMT -5
I'm siding with both Josh and Rollergirl. As much as you people would love to stick it up America, you've gotta realise - Saddam Hussein isn't a nice guy. He's a tyrant and has brought so much pain and suffering to his country..it would be on a par with (if not more than) the amount of suffering America is about to bring on the country. The rageme needs to be removed. It shouldn't be done violently, and I'm sick of the U.S changing the rules in this lead up to the war - but I think it has to be done. Don't get me wrong, I don't want one Iraqi civilian hurt, but if we're all peace and lollipops then Hussein will just keep doing what he's already doing (along with various U.S sanctions to help him out.) A lot of people are going to die either way, it's just a matter of when. Now, or later. yeah sam, i understand what your saying and you make a valid point. saddam is a tyrant and a dictator and should definately be removed. i just feel so helpless about the futility of using bombs and gunfire instead of other (hopefully significatntly less violent) measures. *sigh* its just not fair on the poor civilians. and the sad part is that there is nothing they, nor we, can do about it.  |
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Post by captain heinemann on Mar 8, 2003 1:54:52 GMT -5
agreed |
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Post by josha on Mar 8, 2003 1:58:04 GMT -5
ok, 80% of people who are arguing anti war dont even know any stats about the war and just doing because they are so high they go "yeah man save the universe, save the whales.... i mean no war"
and comments like "yeah america just wants a war with iRAQ cause they feel like it" just fucking prove that you, heinemann, have no fucking idea what the fuck is going on
And im not owned by you "fuck slavery, everyone has there own life man"
come on join my vote for freedom for everyone heinemann you dumb sheep
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Post by captain heinemann on Mar 8, 2003 2:09:00 GMT -5
okay its true that lots of people who are anti-war dont' have a clue but how do you that im one of them? and how do i know you know anything anymoe than i do you could just be saying oh fuck this fuck that just because you've heard someone else say fuck this fuck that. and i explained my comment so you're a fool using it to bash me because it's useless now. okay im a sheep i support the thousands of people who are anti-war  when i go to rallys i get pissed off at all the dickheads who get up on stage and say all stupid things about iraq and seem to have no idea or care tha saddam is a fucking evil dictator people in the socialist and the resistance are always getting pissed off at me and telling me to fuck off to toorak or something because i dont agree with everything their saying becasue half of it is crap. fuck, i dont know why im even bothering to defend myself becasue theres nothing to defend im sick and josh is bored. |
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Post by sam on Mar 8, 2003 2:10:13 GMT -5
I'll probably get flamed for this..but the truth, by the time this whole messy war is over..the remaining Iraqi civilians will probably enjoy a higher standard of living and quality of life than they do now. It's not very utilitarian and I don't know whether it justifies the deaths of a helluva lot of other Iraqi civilians..but I suppose you could twist it a little and say that the ones who dies are like martys or heroes or whatever for the 'new Iraq.' That's if after the U.S 'liberates' it, it doesn't screw it up. I hope to hell that after they've butted in like this, that they can butt out when the world tells them too and let Iraq rebuild itself.
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