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Post by Mediel on Dec 18, 2002 22:53:59 GMT -5
i guess recently it's happend with a lot of bands where the most recent album is really ... shall we say... dodgy... like Echolalia, Diorama, sum of the new greenday stuff etc... lots of ppl don't really like it because it's so different from past albums or too similar! i guess that's just the way it is. well..... personally i think Diorama is one of the best albums I have ever heard, alongside Siamese Dream from the smashing pumpkins. I can see why people reacted negatively to it, especially if they are Silverchair fans and fans of previous albums, as I myself disliked it at first. But now that I've been listening to it for months I think I appreciate it more just for the sheer emotional musicality and the depth of it - as Daniel Johns said, it's not a one-listen album. Eventually if finds a way into your bloodstream and I don't think it will ever get out. Or you could just hate the whole thing. Probably the same principal could apply to #3...except I haven't listened to it as much as I listened to Diorama... I can see what you mean though, I also like the two previous albums much better. I think it may be because this record sounds to me to be more commercial (don't hit me), and less, er, authentic perhaps than their previous albums. A lack of songs such as feet touch the ground, and the other kind of leaving home-ish sound... although the album has songs that I like, which is most of them... Riccochet, Nothing Lasts Forever... it's not an album I can listen to a lot, although yes, I can pull my head out of my arse and dance occasionally.
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Post by sam on Dec 19, 2002 0:22:09 GMT -5
alongside Siamese Dream from the smashing pumpkins. Word. SD = Unfreakin' believable. Another example is when the Pumpkins went from the massiveness of Mellon Collie, to the stripped down sound of Adore. I, personally, love Adore because it manages to sound so organic and so mechanical at the same time. But, a lot of people really hated the change.
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Post by criminally vulgar on Dec 19, 2002 1:37:00 GMT -5
some of the acoustic songs on adore i dont hate cos its a change i just hate them cos they suck.
(although they are still better than hole.)
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Post by TLCM on Dec 19, 2002 2:03:12 GMT -5
Yeah, your right, they are.
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Post by malloy on Dec 19, 2002 3:02:41 GMT -5
WOW am i in the wrong message board?? I actually read all the posts on this thread, and i was just waiting for a slag fight between cock munchers and jerbal users to erupt. BUT NO it actually stayed on the subject....... well done! I've been listening to #3 lately on my CD walkperson (pollitically correct) and to me it sounds like there has been a few more overdubbing of tracks done on this album compared to OSS & SO. Giving it a lot fuller sound and not as raw as some of the tracks on the previous albums. I agree with probably too many effects being used, but in some parts they really work well. Always when im travelling south in WA i whack on Country Holiday Song, it puts you in the best mood for your holiday. Also Baltic Ballet is sweet, bringin back memories. All in all, #3, as the media have said, sounds like a maturer approach to Jebediah and their style of music. Hey let's get realistic here, Jebs ain't getting younger (not that their old, im 25 myself) theirs gotta be some stage where they've gotta make some changes so music can be their career even when they're older.
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Post by criminally vulgar on Dec 19, 2002 4:29:16 GMT -5
Yeah, your right, they are. just remember you're is short for you are, thats how to remember to use 'you're' in that context
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Post by michael on Dec 19, 2002 8:37:12 GMT -5
the media were saying that OSS was 'more mature'...Then suddenly as soon as #3 came out, they forgot about OSS and were saying that #3 was the mature step away from the leaving home type singles. Whilst i'm not saying #3 isn't 'grown up', i think that OSS is definately more 'mature'.
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Post by everlong on Dec 20, 2002 8:00:49 GMT -5
the media were saying that OSS was 'more mature'...Then suddenly as soon as #3 came out, they forgot about OSS and were saying that #3 was the mature step away from the leaving home type singles. Whilst i'm not saying #3 isn't 'grown up', i think that OSS is definately more 'mature'. Word. I look at OSS now, and just think of just how musically sound it is. With #3, it seemed like they were trying to create another SO. The album had some notable features, but overall it seemed to be lacking in parts. Out of all my Jeb albums, I always seem to find myself listening to OSS. That album seems WAY more mature musically than #3.
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Post by sam on Dec 20, 2002 8:26:40 GMT -5
to me it sounds like there has been a few more overdubbing of tracks done on this album compared to OSS & SO. Giving it a lot fuller sound and not as raw as some of the tracks on the previous albums. The overdubbing gave it the 'claustrophobic yet brittle' feel I talked about in my earlier posts. But, yeah Country Holiday Song is brilliant..and that's one of the most raw tracks on the album.
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Post by lemmings on Dec 21, 2002 8:39:03 GMT -5
Hmmm... i think overdubbing is part of it. it didn't sound so over dubbed on previous albums maybe that's the change that's got some people anti#3 it's still decent it's just not AS good and many would expect!
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Post by Jess on Dec 27, 2002 8:00:45 GMT -5
I don't know what your all bitching about, the third album is heaps good! All three albums are different, which is good. It's better than having three albums full of songs that sound exactly the same. I couldn't pick a favourite, i love them all. I wasn't disappointed with the third album at all and the band seems to like it so you know
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Post by Simple on Dec 27, 2002 8:21:36 GMT -5
I remember hearing in an interview with the band that #3 was also a concious step away from the "epic" feel of OSS. (OSS was a definate long player)
As far as the argument about albums go, try and look at each album as a chapter of a book; if each chapter was the same as the last, then it'd be a bloody boring read! ;D
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Post by michael on Dec 27, 2002 8:44:02 GMT -5
uhh yeah...dickhead. a book atleast has some form of continuity from chapter to chapter.
and to jeb srock...obviously you know shit, as people in this topic are giving real reasons and having a somewhat thought out discussion about what they do and do not like about the album. Have a look at most other threads and see if you still think we're 'bitching' about anything on this thread besides the stupidity of people like you.
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Post by Simple on Dec 30, 2002 17:22:54 GMT -5
uhh yeah...dickhead. a book atleast has some form of continuity from chapter to chapter. Well, it seems our lady friend here has her panties in a bunch. Would you like to have a good cry about it? Thank you for imparting you words of wisdom, I'm sure all our lives are that much better for reading them.
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Post by sam on Dec 30, 2002 23:19:16 GMT -5
Albums aren't chapters. The songs are the chapters, an album IS the book.
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