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Post by everlong on Jan 6, 2003 4:45:06 GMT -5
Its been done to death. The general consensus was that shambles was the best. Or you can find the old topic and bump it if you want. I do it all the time  |
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Post by ell on Jan 6, 2003 5:11:04 GMT -5
okay thanks for that i couldn't be stuffed going through all the threads and checking
how about mmmmm "what style do u think the jebs play?"
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Post by michael on Jan 6, 2003 19:35:51 GMT -5
how about mmmmm "what style do u think the jebs play?" [shadow=red,left,300]. . .[/shadow] |
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Post by TLCM on Jan 7, 2003 6:35:22 GMT -5
It would be a good topic if you wanted to have people tell you how shit you are and not answer the poll. But then again some people would say that anyway. It's not because you are. It's probably related to their relationships with their mothers, or each other.
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Post by bossman on Jan 8, 2003 6:44:38 GMT -5
SO, from memory, went double platnium. Define what you mean by pop. Some of their songs are, some aren't. What is called pop today isn't what it used to be, now its given to some half naked teen girl record company creation who mimes other peoples songs in concert.
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Post by TLCM on Jan 8, 2003 20:41:19 GMT -5
Ok this is my impression. Pop stands for popular. To me popular means commercial. Commercial music is muisc that has the sole purpose of selling to a mass audience. This is done by creating sex appeal. Sex appeal doesn't necessarily mean that the singers can sing so a whole lot of over dubing and electronic effects are added to the music.
In short pop music of today is mostly a whole bunch of scantily clad men and women singing other people shit with a whole lot of electonic bullshit that's used to hide their bad singing.
An even shorter idea, synthetic pop.
Well that's, my impression of todays pop, I'm not saying that Jebediah aren't popular, that's a whole different idea. Bossman is right, like everything else pop evolves so what you consider pop may not be what other people consider it to be.
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Post by Lucmeister on Jan 8, 2003 23:43:30 GMT -5
jebediah is pop. i HATE the genre calling bullshit that goes on with music. people are constantly trying to make the bands they listen to sound more interesting or original or intelligent by calling them something they're not. pop music has changed over time, but it's still pop you can't do anything about it.
maybe you should start by trying to shed the bullshit labels you have for yourself then you might be more comfortable admitting what you listen to.
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Post by everlong on Jan 9, 2003 10:12:48 GMT -5
How about just stating WHY you feel it's pop. Give us some examples.
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Post by TLCM on Jan 9, 2003 21:39:50 GMT -5
yeah, that could help. The only reason I find it hard to classify them as strait edge pop is because I don't believe they have the same recognition as many other artists and they don't play the same music either. I admit I can't classify Jebediah and I've never classified myself either so if your thinking that I'm some Indie kid who is affraid to admit that their favourite band is appealing to a wider audience then forget it. That idea is impossible. No one can class them as emo, who would want to anyway, again it's impossible. Punk, fuck off, half the punk bands out at the moment aren't even punk.
Alot of bands are like jebediah and are hard to classify mabe they are pop but more of a hybrid type. I find it extremely hard to classify a moderatly well known Perth band alsongside Britney Spears, Christina Aguliera, Destiny's Child, N'Sync, Usher and Kylie Minogue. Sure they are bigger than alot of other bands in Australia and are up there but they certainly haven't reached the big pop stuff that many others have.
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Post by Lauzza on Jan 9, 2003 21:59:36 GMT -5
pop's about the style of music - not how many records are sold
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Post by michael on Jan 9, 2003 22:15:09 GMT -5
pop's about the style of music - not how many records are sold exactly.. there are now so many sub genres to pop (see: bubblegum-pop, brit-pop, pop-punk, fashion-pop..to name just a few of the many) that people dont recognise many of them and think that pop is all about the glitter of the teen-targeted 'bubblegum-pop'. A few years ago dance music became pop (or pop music added a dance beat behind it to get in on the craze), the same is happening now with pop-stars crossing over to a more R'n'B sound to get with what is currently popular with (once again..) the teen orientated type of pop that we're saturated with. All This does is create more and more sub-genre's of pop. Whilst it all comes under the term 'pop' it doesn't mean they have to sound the same. It's just like the broad term of 'punk' which has it's own very different sounding styles inside itself (hardcore, thrash, grindcore, screamo, emo, and anything else that'll make you seem cool). I think it was thom yorke who said something like (this is far from a direct quote) pop music is the ability to fit a nice melody and a catchy chorus into 3 minutes of music ...he might just be onto something there. |
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Post by Simple on Jan 9, 2003 22:29:45 GMT -5
pop's about the style of music - not how many records are sold Actually, pop music is POPULAR music. Anything that is deemed to be popular, whether it be in your local area, or popular worldwide. This definition of pop music dates back around a century, and when I can dig up the paper I've written on the subject, I'll post more about the definition here. The actual misuse of the term pop-music, has led to the labelling of any electronic or psuedo-rock song/artist as being pop. This is a trend that has only arisen in the last decade or two. So, by the new definition of music styles, if I had to define the Jeb's sound, I'd say pop-rock. It's the lighter side of rock, and easy on the ears, with commercial appeal. If you want to stop the argument, lets just say that the Jeb's are who they are, and not pidgeon hole them at all. |
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Post by TLCM on Jan 9, 2003 22:55:54 GMT -5
If you want to stop the argument, lets just say that the Jeb's are who they are, and not pidgeon hole them at all. That would have to be the smartest thing I've read all day. I also really appreciate what you and Michael wrote it's a shit load better than my little narrow minded thing. I guess it depends on what side of things that I take to what I say and this time I fucked up and didn't express myself very well. I had a go at the who sub genre thing with my hybrid idea but left it at that. |
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Post by Lucmeister on Jan 9, 2003 23:26:10 GMT -5
yeah they are definetly post-grunge pop-rock ....ohh wait their indie...no alternative...no punk-pop.... no hang on.....
pop
adj : (of music or art) new and of general appeal (especially among young people)
i think that sums up jebediah as much as needs be
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Post by ell on Jan 10, 2003 2:07:36 GMT -5
yeah pop rock, grunge, australian alternative, indie their music is summed up differently by different people
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